How to Get Banned Pups on Base (Without Breaking the Rules)

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It was puppy-love at first sight.

My pre-teen friendship with my Gordon Setter, Taffy (full name: Salt Water Taffy Brite Star), was the kind you read about in books like Where the Red Fern Grows and Lad, a Dog. Military life notwithstanding, I knew that my son should, nay MUST, grow-up with a dog. And so off to the on-post animal shelter we trotted, determined to bring home a loveable mutt.

What we ended up with was Chloe, the most docile towards children, defensive towards strangers and down right vicious to wild bunnies pup you’ll ever meet. She was found wandering around post. They guessed that she was just about a year old and proclaimed her a “terrier mix.”

Which was lucky for us, because after living with her for more than a year, I’m pretty sure she’s a fair part Chow-Chow – one of the many dog breeds often banned by posts and bases.

But there’s no way to tell that she’s a Chow mix  — or anything for the matter — for certain.  We don’t know her mom’s lineage. Who knows who the puppy baby daddy was. The designation of “terrier mix” was based entirely on impressions – that her coat looked  long (we’ve since cut it), that her ears sat this way (they don’t always do that), that she looked like she wanted to dig (she never digs) – not on any actual evidence.

There is equal evidence to being a Chow. That long coat is kinda poofy, too. Her tongue has black spots. She’s kinda Chow like around the eyes.

Yet had the veterinarian written “Chow” on her papers instead of “terrier,” we would be blocked from living on many Army posts while we own her.

Housing breed bans have not been the norm in the military community forever, and it’s difficult to pin-point exactly what brought them about. But the birth of the policy appears to be largely tied to the 2009 privatization of military housing, and the need of those housing management companies to secure insurance. Because aggressive dogs can result in injuries and, therefore, an insurance liability, companies take the easy road out of the problem and ban breeds they consider questionable. It’s not about overall safety for those living in housing – it’s about keeping insurance costs low.

But there is no master list of banned breeds held by all the services and all the bases. Chows, for example, are banned in some places but not others. And, like we have run before here on SpouseBuzz, there’s no evidence that breed bans work at all. Sure, some breeds tend to be more aggressive than others, but evidence shows that breed bans don’t work – it’s holding owners accountable that is needed.

If Chloe had been labeled a “Chow,” instead of a “terrier,” we’d be in a tight, housingless spot. And if living on post was our only real option, we’d be trying to figure out how to make it work without giving up the hairiest member of our family.

So how would we do it? Here are four suggestions on how to get your “banned” dog on base without actually breaking any rules.

1. Call it something – anything – other than the banned breed. Unless you and your Rottweiler are headed to the Westminster Dog Show next month, visual identification of any breed can be faulty, and DNA tests can be wrong. According to this, vets are even moving away from labeling a dog any specific breed at all unless there’s a DNA test to back it up. So call your dog that might be a part-American Pit Bull Terrier a “terrier mix” (since, technically, it is) and you’re not breaking any rules. Just make sure you have vet paperwork to back you up.

2.  Ask your vet or shelter to help you out. We didn’t know that the on-post vet clinic was doing us a solid when they labeled a Chloe a “terrier mix” instead of a “Chow mix.” But they probably knew it. Vets and clinics want you to adopt the dog, and they want you to keep the dog. Labeling it a banned breed makes both of those things less likely.

3. Make your neighbor some muffins. So your possibly part-Doberman dog your vet labeled a “hound mix,” (well played as Dobermans are part of the hound family) is making your neighbors uneasy? Make them some mini muffins, introduce them to your sweet hound-mix girl and count yourself lucky – you now have new friends, you got to eat a muffin, and no one is complaining to housing.

4. Don’t roll over (or play dead). If the mini-muffins don’t work, or the maintenance guy goes back to the office and says your dog looks like one of the banned breeds, go the mattresses. Since no one can prove a breed anyway, your appeal has legs (especially if your vet is on board).

Edit: A petition organized by the group Dogs on Deployment seeking breed-nuetral housing policies is making the rounds and has already collected over 26,000 signatures. To see it go here. To follow the issue’s progress, check out this Facebook page.

About the Author

Amy Bushatz
Amy is the editor in chief of Military.com’s spouse and family blog SpouseBuzz.com. A journalist by trade, Amy also covers spouse and family news for Military.com where she is the managing editor of spouse and family content. An Army wife and mother of two, Amy has been featured as a subject matter expert on CNN.com, NPR, Fox News, NBC, CBS, ABC and BBC as well as in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Washington Post. Follow her on twitter @amybushatz.

46 Comments on "How to Get Banned Pups on Base (Without Breaking the Rules)"

  1. Why would I purposely lie to my landlord about the breed of my dog, risking eviction, or even worse, an incident concerning my dog attacking others? Don’t get me wrong, I love my dogs and I think dogs are only aggressive due to how they’re raised but not all owners are perfect…
    My home is my home and risking it for a dog is a little much when those are simply the rules. Especially if your already living on post and want to bring a new dog into the family. If our housing company is like any others, they don’t mince words, especially with so many small children and unfenced yards. This post encourages deceit and the potential for future problems with companies and their tenants. Very irresponsible post…

  2. Suggestions 1 & 2 are, at best, unethical. The deliberate twisting of the semantics and lexicon involved in order to obtain a desired result are a poor example for everyone. You are teaching people to change the words they use until they obtain their desired outcome.

    I disagree 100% with breed bans. I think they're idiotic. Until owners are held accountable, nothing will likely change. And insurance is a money game – they don't get into the game to lose it. I doubt much will change on the insurance front – their objective is to deny as many claims as possible to increase their bottom line – it's business.

    However, if a location (post, private housing, rental unit, etc) chooses to ban a specific breed for insurance purposes, you bringing on a mixed breed with banned breed blood in it jeopardizes everyone's insurance. The (over) reaction is likely a ban on all dogs.

    Beware the law of unintended consequences.

  3. Well I for one agree with Amy. We have mix dogs and depending on how it is worded could mean we are restricted from on-post housing. The on-post vet was the one who titled our dogs breed from a best guess so that there was no problems. We also do not know for sure what their ethnicity is. We have lived on post for the last 4 years with out a problem or incident with our boys. I know a couple of other families that have had incidents with dogs that were allowed. It really does come down to how they were raised, just like children. I do not condone lieing at all and do not feel that this article supports it either. Our dogs have prevented our house from being broken into when every other house on our cul-de-sac was.

  4. Wow. My child was attacked on post by a “banned” breed dog, and had I not been close with a stick, things could have been awful. Dogs are not people. And you have lost all credibility in my eyes. People
    Ike you twisting things around, cause damage and sometimes worse, and for all of us. We chose pets according to whether or not we could travel with them, and live on post with them. There are rules for a reason. It’s the military. You really shouldn’t encourage people to be devious.

  5. I'm with Amy on this one. There are way to many breed rules and theyre not even universal. If you commit yo a dog then IMO you need to do everything you can to do right by it. If that means getting liberal with breed type than so be it. Any dog can attack not just bully breeds. All dogs deserve a chance and people shouldnt be punished simply because they made the choice to have a dog as a pet.

  6. I disagree w this post. I , as a mom of a little one, would be floored if my child was attacked on base by someone's dog that they snuck on base via a technicality. I could see a law suit happening- and the base as well as owner getting owned in court.

    If one cannot live w/ in the bounds of the military then perhaps they should not live on base or perhaps they should look into a different career. There are rules for a reason and I am happy that the military recognizes that some breeds are known to harm children and adults alike and do what they can ( expecting others to be honest) to protect us and make our community safer.

    No amount of muffins would deter me if I saw that someone was lying by omission and sneaking a breed that has been deemed dangerous on to base.

    Base is not just for you- its a community w rules and expectations. One big expectation is honesty! Geeze…..

  7. I think this a good article. I raised chows, and other "mean" breed dogs, never had one every attack me or anyone I know. Had someone with one the "sweet" breed dogs nearly tear my kids face off…it's all about how the pup is raised. If you do not have papers saying exactly what the lineage is, then by all means put it as broad of a breed it's close to. There is no reason a family should have to give up a pet (furry family member) just because it happened to be labled as a certian breed. How about instead of jumping down the breed of the dog, the people who abuse the animials and let them run all over the place get into trouble instead of kicking a family with a suspected "banned" breed whose dog has never bit or growled at anyone out of housing.

  8. To the lady whose kid was attacked. I'm sorry, however it's not the dog's fault other than actually inflicting the bite. The real fault lies on the irresponsible owner who did not manage their dog properly. Any dog can bite. If you research dog bite statistics, more kids are bitten by labs and goldens yearly, but you can't sensationalize that so the media doesn't report it. Who wants to read that a lab ripped open a kid's face? No, society has demonized these so called 'banned, dangerous' dogs to the point where it is insane!
    Oh by the way, vets do not take classes in dog breed identification so if they are 'sure' your dog is composed of certain breeds question them. The truth may be that they have no idea and are going with the popular mixes!
    To the author, thank you for writing an article that will hopefully help more people keep their family pets as opposed to surrendering them to a shelter or turning them loose. Military families have to give up so much, why their cherished family pet too?

  9. We have a German Shepherd, which I think is another breed that has been banned from on-base housing. So, we cannot live in housing because of our German Shepherd.

  10. I always love the "my dog would never hurt anything" argument. My sisters dog was just that way. He'd never hurt anything except maybe a feisty squirrel who decided to run into the yard… that was until he ripped half of my niece's bottom lip off, left puncture wounds on her neck, tore off a big chunk out of her arm for trying to defend her 8 year old self. Oh and what was she doing? Playing with her Barbies in the yard. He never was aggressive before the attack. and my sister is a groomer and trainer. What breed was he? Doberman/Lab. Sometimes the most loyal of dogs DO attack without provocation.

    There are MIX breed bans as well. Trying to get around strict rules just because you made a choice to take in a known aggressive breed is a bad one.They can question the breed of dog because you are living on THEIR property. You have the choice to live on post, or off. Though it's not just on-post housing that restricts pure/mix bully breeds. The do it as well in the civilian world as well.

    But tell people that a pitbull/lab mix is more lab than a pit. Just disregard the other half of it's breed, no biggie!

  11. Some of you people are acting like these band breeds are monsters. Should certain humans be band from things, because they are a lot of EVIL humans out there. Oh and the last time I checked small dogs attack more than big dogs.

  12. I was bit as a small child (2 or 3) by a poodle, according to my parents. right in the face. Banning breeds will not stop dog aggression as a species. Education will help people and their children know how to behave around animals and what things can be triggers. Poodles aren't even a banned breed!

  13. You are promoting people to be (and have now bragged about personally being) purposely deceptive. You can play the word game saying "assumptions" and "it can't be proven", but really that doesn't matter. You know what you're doing. It's not about your principals and doggie rights, it's about the fact that you are lying by ommision and encouraging others to do the same. I'm sure your dog is sweet and precious. I've met plenty of dogs that would be considered an "aggressive breed" that are just amazing animals. It's not about that, it's about a set of rules put in place that you have deceived your way around and that is just plain wrong. Your justifications don't matter.

  14. Someone, somewhere, decided people need to be protected from irresponsible dog owners and the dogs take the fall. My son was attacked when he was very little, by a pomeranian, but those are allowed on post. The rules need to be changed, but until they are, this article was just suggesting ways to get around them. Its up to you whether or not to take the risk.

    And its not lying if you dont know for sure what kind of dog you have. We currently have a mutt. No one can even guess what he is. Looks like a very fuzzy pit with a mohawk, or maybe a giant Jack Russel with a big head. Who knows? The shelter listed him as a terrier mix as well. There are many other dogs at the shelter who are wonderful and loving but because they "look" a certain way they may never find a home.

    Its not about the breed. Its about lack of training, socializing, and not spaying/neutering. These are bigger risk factors in attacks than what your dog looks like. I am a huge advocate for temperment screenings and renters insurance for "aggressive breeds" on military installations. That would relieve housing companies of liability and give good dogs a chance.

  15. I was bit twice as a teenager and did nothing to provoke either bite. If you are going to lie and sneak about your dog what else with you lie about. Perhaps the real answer should be to ban all dogs from government housing.

  16. One of our friends have chows and Chloe is definitely not a chow.

  17. I always get a kick out of the "what they don't know, won't hurt them" mentality. When we lived in base housing I always had 2 cats. Frequently I would come across a cat needing a home and would want to take him in, but base housing rules were 2 pets only. I had plenty of people tell me to just hide one cat when maintenance came in and no one would know if I had 3 cats. I couldn't live with the thought of the added anxiety of possibly getting caught and being given the choice of getting rid of a cat I grew to love or losing the housing that my family lived in. I chose to follow the rules and only had 2 cats. Now I have 3, but I live off base. Rules are there for a reason. We may not always agree with them, but there it is. If you don't want to follow the rules, live off base. I have a problem with doing something that I know may be dishonest and I feel a lot better about myself when I don't put myself in questionable situations. I consider deception to be dishonest and if you aren't sure that the dog you have chosen meets the rules on base, then either don't get the dog or move off base and get the dog.

  18. I cant tell you how many times Ive called the SP's because of loose dogs running around, my wife and children have both been chased by dogs in base housing and my mom was cornered by a snarling mut until I ran it off with a shovel. People want to have dogs fine, but be prepared to be financially and possibly criminally liable for youre propery (dogs are property) just as you would be if you ran someone over with a car. Is fluffy worth a lawsuit? or the embarrasment of being kicked out of base housing?

  19. Sad for anyone who has been bitten by a dog.. But please no need for every dog to be judged by a few BAD!!!! OWNERS!!! We have a Rottweiler yes he is a restricted breed!! (Not banned). My husband gave him to me to help with my Fibromyalgia,, as we ALL know and are familiar with deployments he is gone a lot, we have yet to live on a base, but we are currently on the list. We are aware of the rules and will adhere too them as we all should… But he is a therapy dog not only for me, but also for my husband. It saddens me to be discriminated because of a few irresponsible owners!! Do all Bad kids come from Bad Parenting? My Rottweiler as well as my three children have manners, respect, and are well behaved. I always get complements on all four of my babies lol

  20. Why aren't we kicking people off post and why are there no rules when the bratty children bite, kick, vandalize or get violent. My neighbors kid has bitten me…twice….and I've been kicked by kids in the commissary on numerous occasions. Bad parenting results in bad kids like bad dog ownership results in bad dogs, why is only one punishable?

  21. This is a horrible thing to promote.

    We own a currently "banned breed" and because of this we live off-post. It's a frustrating truth and a hardship for many military families; not to mention it's a completely useless restriction. Bending the rules to suit your own needs punishes everyone involved, and will harm people who are honestly (and through the correct channels) pushing for a re-vamp of the current breed restrictions.

    Responsible people don't lie, and pet owners that feel it's OK to do so – negatively impact us all.

  22. This is the most irresponsible article I have ever read as both a military spouse in housing with pets and a former vet tech civilian army. There are rules in place for a reason, and although I have known many of the banned breeds that are in fact sweet and loving I have also had experiences with the ones that are not. I can not believe that spousebuzz and military.com would promote an article that encourages breaking the rules and the liability that could cause another person or a child harm….shame.

  23. I would like to remind all military members as well that many overseas countries have "bully" breed bans, and it does not matter what is written on your paperwork. If you try to enter a country with a breed ban (Germany being one of them) and the person at the port suspects it is a banned breed despite the paperwork they will give you the option to euthanize the pet immediately or put it on a plane back to the US.
    You may think it won't happen to you but working for the army vet program we actually had a client that tried and had to put the dog down.
    Having a pet is a luxury (yes the federal gov't considers pets a luxury) and a responsibility, if you can not accept all of the limitations and financial burdens (living off base and paying higher renters insurance) then do not get a pet.
    If you start choosing which rules should apply to you because you believe deceit is harmless why should anyone else follow rules they don't like.

  24. Are you serious? You risk the servicemembers career, housing privileges and a potiental lawsuit just for a dog? If you want that dog live off post.

  25. FYI I will also be forwarding this to Vet clinics and MP shacks.. This is a pathetic article

  26. Patrick Eoin Brogan | February 6, 2013 at 3:38 pm |

    FYI, a Doberman Pinscher is part of the WORKING dog group, NOT the HOUND group.

  27. How about just not having a banned breed? I got a call one day while filling in for the SgtMaj about a GySgt from my unit who had shot a Pit Bull in SNCO housing after it had gotten loose, attacked another SNCOs Lab and then attacked the Neighbors wife when they tried to get them apart and wouldn't let go. He put a 357 in the dogs chest so as to not endanger the Marines wife whose arm was in the dogs jaws. The Pit let go and laid down apparently done for. Then as her husband was helping her to their house for first aid and to call an ambulance, the dog got up again and went after them a second time. My Gunny put a second 357 in his brain as he was far enough from them for a clear shot.

    *******

    The victim survived after emergency surgery to reconnect torn muscles and plastic surgery twice later on. My Gunny was not charged as his weapon was registered at PMO and at Cherry Point NC where this took place regs allowed SNCOs and officers to keep private firearms in their quarters.

    ******

    The owners of the Pit Bull acted as they all do with shock and surprise and questioning if their neighbors had done something to provoke the Pit and stories about how loving and gentle the dog was. Same O, same O for all Pit owners, blind to reality. They were kicked out of housing for allowing their dog to run free and attack another dog and two residents. They felt wronged of course, Pit owners never want to take responsibility.

    ******'

    The bottom line is Pits and some other breeds are dangerous and will be for the foreseeable future. They have undergone centuries of breeding to create semi-domesticated fighters and that they will remain. They are not a domesticated animal, their instincts are stronger than their training and discipline on occasion. They are a time bomb, one never knows if they will or won't or when. So, instead of trying to defeat the regs intended to protect your fellow soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines why not accept them and choose either housing or the dog. That's called responsibility and putting the safety of the families around you first.

  28. Very sad the ignorance that exists on breeds. Please read Pit Bull Placebo and you will learn that for decades there has been an animal feared by the masses and used in abusive ways. Let's please target the root causes of dangerous dogs and hold the owners accountable for an individual dog's behavior, regardless of breed. If Pit Bulls were the problem, then why were Doberman's the dog that used to be banned but now permitted in Marine Corps housing. Please talk to vets and canine trainers and you'll learn that any big dog has the ability to cause harm when unsocialized and denied care. So sad the ignorance that exists on this issue.

  29. I hope your spouse has more integrity than you. You have a problem with authority and don't fit in the military. I hated working with people like this. Everyone suffers when the crap hits the fan over stuff like this….one person being selfish and feeling so special they don't have to follow rules.

    Don't play dumb about the rules. It's embarrassing.

  30. I can understand the responses and having a furry friend who is family. I had to PCS to CA where "Quaker" Parrots are not allowed (there are a few states that are like this). There is no way I was going to give up Mickey so I did not advertise my bird around and kept her right next to me when I went to the pool. 3 1/2 years later we PCS'd to a Quaker firendly state. 1.) The reasoning behind banning Quakers is incorrect 2.) I kept a tight "leash" on my bird. If dog owners would do the same, there would not be such a problem. 3.) I never allowed even a chance for a mishap to happen. If a child came over, I would explain they could look, but not touch. Also, children need to be taught to NEVER touch a dog that is not theirs!

  31. Let me add, I would never own an attack dog or one who had a bad rep. Of course if the majority of bases banned my Quaker then I would not have adopted Mickey in the first place or know I was always going to live off base and have a back up care plan when I deployed…which I did and used. Thank goodness I am now retired so I have more choices…but service before self when you're in!

  32. Geez. Way to lead the spouses. Just follow the rules. Life is simpler for everyone involved except the lawyer the victim hires to sue you if your dog should ever bite anyone. Yes, the truth will come out when that happens. Don't expect the vet you had fudge the paperwork to stand up for you when it all goes down.

    Like I tell my troops. The rules are there for a reason. Follow them or change them, but never disregard them unless you are willing to live with the consequences. Is it worth it?

    The best thing to do is live off base until you can get the rules changed.

  33. If they can extend benefits to domestic partners they can let me pick my breed of dog! Its my benefit to live on base, I earned it.

  34. By golly, this is a non-issue. If the military wanted you to have a dog (or a cat) it would have been issued to you. Pet ownership isn't a right, so consider yourself lucky. Stay within the benevolent spirit of the limited privilege that has been granted you, or risk losing it altogether.

  35. Wisdom Panel DNA test for dogs. It works. I tested it on purebreds and on mixed breed rescues where I knew what they were mixed with for sure. So, there is definitely a way to tell.

    Personally, I do not agree with lying about anything. Even if it is a "little white lie". Lying is lying. It only leads to more lying. I do not agree with breed bans, but some breeds are definitely predisposed to aggression. Not usually the ones that get banned, ironically enough. XD

  36. I'm trying to figure out why people are so upset that about this article when there are dangerous dogs living in base housing right now. No, I don't mean restricted breeds are living in base housing (though, yes, some are). I'm talking about the Golden Retriever who bites children, the Poodle who snarls at passerby, the Pomeranian who runs at large and charges people and dogs, and the Lab mix who attacks other dogs.

    I lived in base housing for 3.5 years and walked and jogged, with and without dogs, for all of those years. I regularly encountered dogs running at large. By and large, they were usually people-friendly and therefor mostly people-safe. A lot of them were poorly socialized and poorly trained. A number of them were scared. I've been charged, lunged at, growled and snarled at, and bitten, too. My dogs have been attacked.

    Why isn't anyone taking these dogs and these incidents seriously? Why doesn't anyone care that the Goldie in the cul-de-sac is a known fear biter allowed to run at large? Why is no one concerned about the fat Lab mix who bit my dog and runs at large? Why is the Pomeranian who picks fights allowed? What about the neighbor with three intact dogs, two of which are males that fight over the female, and have even fought with each other ON TOP OF A CHILD?

    Time to toss out notions of breed restrictions and go after owners who fail to responsibly contain and maintain their dogs. Because right now, on every single military installation is a dog who is a ticking time bomb through no fault of their own. They've been let down. And it's just a matter of time before a perfect storm of events occurs that sets that dog up to be in a position where he or she feels the panicked need to bite (or worse).

    Shame on everyone fussing over breeds and lineage when people are getting bitten by all breeds and sizes. Shame on everyone ignoring the victims of dog bites and dog attacks to fuss over restricted breeds. Take the blinders off and realize people are getting hurt due to irresponsibility and nothing is being done.

  37. Shame on you. Lying and cheating the rules. Not everyone is responsible as it is, for their so called "banned breed" dogs, so why make it easy for them? You know you're not supposed to have the breed so why do it? Live off post. This is coming from a former Rott mama.

  38. A key point that no one has pointed out is the lack of consistency across housing on what is considered a "banned breed". It is clear that all housing developments do not operate under the same rules. So lets just say, a family adopts a dog that is accepted in one housing facility. When the family goes to move, they find out that the dog is considered "banned" at their next housing assignment. What is the family to do?

    I agree that dogs should not be stereotyped based on their breed or how large they get. As a groomer of nearly 15 years, I can honestly say that I have been bitten more by small dogs than large dogs. Not discounting the fact that large dogs can bite as well.

    Perhaps a better solution would be for housing developments to implement the same breed restrictions across all bases. In addition, I firmly believe, "banned" dog or not, if a dog exhibits aggressive tendencies, they family should be held accountable.

  39. Well, it is people like you, who find themselves being sued in the long run. Where I live, there was a case where a banned breed dog, attacked a child. That child and the Parent's are suing housing. They put down that the dog was a shepherd mix. When it was a Rott. Doesn't matter how you lie and change the name of the breed of your pet. If it is mixed or is obvious it is mixed with a banned breed, your in trouble. I am hearing that soon base housing will just ban all pets. Because people like you, LIARS are making it worse for people who follow the rules, and have breeds are are allowed. So stop trying to give others, your sneaky "tips" to get a BANNED breed on base. Pretty sure, after this law suit is settled, you will see a whole new pet rules and breeds in your lease.

  40. Ugh, all the ignorance and anger in these comments from people who know nothing about these breeds except what they hear from sensationalized media.

    I'll let you guys know a little something– no one on base cares about a dog's breed as long as it's well-behaved and you pick up its poop. There are all kinds of "banned" breeds on our base: pitbulls, rotties, Dobermans, german shepherds, etc. You can find them all at your friendly base dog park. I see these dogs play together with other dogs all the time with zero problems, because good owners have good dogs. Period. Some of you people need to seriously educate yourselves about dog breeds before forming an opinion, because this cycle of perpetuated myths and fears results in many great dogs losing their lives.

    And just for the record, the most aggressive and unfriendly dogs I've encountered on base have never been a banned breed.

  41. How to Get Banned Pups on Base (Without Breaking the Rules)

    If you bring a banned breed on base, you are breaking the rules….period You can't do it without breaking them. It doesn't matter if your dog is good. If it's banned, then it's banned. I've got Great Danes and they weren't allowed in one location. You know what? I lived off base. Freaking whiners. My dogs are gentle giants, but no one is permitted in their yard alone. If I am with the person, that is a different story and they don't move or bark. They are very protective and do not like aggression of any kind. I'd turn anyone in that isn't following the rules. Rules aren't made out of thin air for sh!ts and giggles. Those rules are there for a reason. Comply or go. No time for garbage like that. We've got bigger problems to tackle. But it doesn't mean that we ignore the little things. If you can't follow the little rules, how in the h3ll are you going to follow the big ones?

    People tried fighting the seat belt rule in states that didn't require use. It stuck, just like these rules will.

  42. Did anyone bother to read about the author at the end?

    "About Amy Bushatz
    Amy is the managing editor of Military.com’s spouse and family blog SpouseBuzz.com. A journalist by trade, Amy also covers spouse and family news for Military.com where she is an Associate Editor. An Army wife and mother of two, Amy has been featured as a subject matter expert on NPR and in the New York Times"

    Subject Matter Expert of what? Army wife, mother, editor of a blog, or how to break rules? LOL!!!

  43. I agree that BSL is not effective because military members are now circumventing BSL on base by reclassifying their pit bull mix pets as terrier mixes or even lab mixes. Thus, BSL will not prevent military members from fraudulently smuggling banned breeds on base. Over time, we will start to see an increase in the attacks of lab mixes and terrier mixes on base. Thus, the military can keep increasing the list of banned animals, or, they can do something more effective like require all cats and dogs living on base as pets to be spayed or neutered by one year of age or upon adoption if the animal is over one year. If the pet is not spayed or neutered within these guidelines, the military veterinary treatment facility (VTF) should deny service and report the military member to the commander if living on base. 70% of dog bites involve a dog that has not been neutered. Enforcement of the spay/neuter policy will help reduce the aggressive tendencies of whatever breed you decide to call your pet, reduce the likelihood of attacks on base, reduce the medical expenses and liability incurred as a result of these attacks, as well as prevent military members or dependents from abusing VTF resources to profit from breeding animals. Anyone who doesn't like the policy can live off base and use non military veterinary care. I wish I could request that all dogs be muzzled when in public areas on base, but that is probably asking too much. At the very least though the pets should be spayed or neutered.

  44. When you live on a U.S. military installation you are living on US Government property. When you sign your lease to live in that housing on US Government property you are signing a contract. And when you sign the contract stating you will NOT have any banned breeds on that US Government property, you are in for a world of hurt if you do. The government put the banned restrictions into place for a reason. If you are just a complete idiot that will push to sneak your banned breed on post, karma will come bite you in the @$$- but hopefully your banned breed doesn't bite someone else.

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